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Bridget ("Bea") McGing was born on March 5, 1934 in Cappaghduff, Mayo, IrelandG. She and Morris Hilstead were married on November 3, 1962 in San Francisco, San Francisco County, CaliforniaG, California, Marriage Index, 1960-1985
Name:Bridget Mcging
Gender:Female
Birth Year:abt 1934
Age:28
Marriage Date:3 Nov 1962
Marriage Place:San Francisco, California, USA
Spouse Name:Morris Hillstead
Spouse Age:30

Morris Hillstead & Bridget McGing
Marriage:Nov 3 1962 San Francisco, California, USA
Husband:Morris Hillstead
Birth: Circa 1932
Age: 30
Wife:Bridget McGing
Birth: Circa 1934
Age: 28. She died on February 5, 2018, at age 83, in California, United StatesG.

Name: Bridget McGing
Registration district: Ballinrobe
Record type: BIRTHS
Registration date - quarter and year: Apr - Jun 1934
Estimated birth year:
Age:
Mother surnames: Donaghue
Film number: 101232
Volume: 4
Page: 34
Digital GS number: 4195647
Image number: 00486
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958

California, Federal Naturalization Records, 1843-1999
Name: Bridget Hillstead
[Bridget Mcging]
Petition Age: 23
Record Type: Petition
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1934
Birth Place: Tourmakeady, Ireland
Petition Date: 1957
Petition Place: California, USA
Spouse: Morris Hillstead
Petition Number: 158767. (Research):Bridget Hillstead
Mar. 5, 1934 - Feb. 5, 2018
Pacheco
Bridget "Bea" Hillstead, 83, passed away peacefully February 5, 2018 at her home in Pacheco, California. Bea was born March 5, 1934 in Tourmakeady, County Mayo, Ireland to Thomas and Bridget McGing. She was united in marriage to Morris Hillstead on November 3, 1962 in San Francisco, California. He preceded her in death on March 3, 2004. Bea and Morris will be reunited at Queen of Heaven Cemetery in Lafayette, CA

After completing nursing school in England in 1956, she immigrated to America eventually settling in California. During her 40year career as a Registered Nurse, Bea worked mainly in Skilled Nursing Facilities. Her kindness and witty sense of humor will be fondly remembered by all.
She is survived by her children and spouses; James (Gretchen) Hillstead of Richmond, CA, Mary (John-Paul) Hard of Martinez, CA; a daughter-in-law Colleen Hillstead of Concord, CA; grandchildren, Patrick Hillstead of Hayward, CA, Katie Hillstead of Hawaii, and Erin Hillstead of Concord, CA; brother John McGing of Chicago, IL.

In addition to her husband, she was preceded in death by siblings; Patrick McGing, Philip McGing, May Lally, Anne Donnelly, Austin McGing, James McGing, and Penelope "Nuala" Lally
In lieu of flowers, memorial donations may be made to the American Heart Association. The family wishes to thank Kaiser Hospice and Home Care Assistance workers for their compassionate care.

Peter Heneghan was born in 1939 in Tourmakeady, Mayo, IrelandG. He and Julia Lennon were married. He died on May 27, 2024, at age ~85, in Chicago, Cook, IllinoisG.

(Research):Peter Heneghan Obituary
Obituary published on Legacy.com by Colonial-Wojciechowski Funeral Homes - Chicago on May 29, 2024.
Peter Heneghan, 83, longtime resident of Edison Park, at peace with Christ May 27, 2024. Native of Shanvallyard, Tourmakeady, Co. Mayo, Ireland.
Beloved husband of the late Julia nee Lennon. Loving father of Bridget (Michael) Mullan, Peter CFD (Rosalie), Andrew (Ann), Maureen (Michael) Hominick, and Kathleen (Daniel) Arrecis. Cherished grandpa of Maura, Brendan, Fiona, Michael, Sean, Andrew, Julia, Ryan, Jacklyn, Madden, Hugh, Delia and Lennon. Dear brother of the late Mary, Bridget, Julia, Eileen (Patrick) Casey, Catherine (James) McGing, and Mickey. Fond uncle of many nieces and nephews.
Visitation Sunday, June 2, 2024, 3-8 p.m. at Colonial Funeral Home, 6250 N. Milwaukee Ave., Chicago. Funeral Monday 9:15 a.m. prayers at the funeral home to St. Juliana Church. Mass 10:00 a.m. Interment All Saints Cemetery.
Funeral Mass live stream link https://youtube.com/live/voEv8QkHzUU?feature=share
In lieu of flowers memorials appreciated to Misericordia at misericordia.com
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Philip McGing was born on October 18, 1845 in Tonlegee, Mayo, IrelandG. He and Penelope Morrin were married on February 24, 1876 in Ballyovey, Mayo, IrelandG, Ireland Civil Marriage Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Philip
Last nameMcGing
SexMale
Age28
Birth year1848
Marital statusBachelor
Condition (as transcribed)B
OccupationFarmer
ResidenceArdary Co Mayo
Marriage year1876
Marriage date23 Feb 1876
DenominationRoman Catholic
Church nameBallyovic
Registration districtBallinrobe
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
Parish-
CountyMayo
CountryIreland
Spouse's first name(s)Nappy
Spouse's last nameMorran
Spouse's age19
Spouse's marital statusS
Spouse's residenceChurchfield Co Galway
Father's first name(s)Patrick
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Spouse's father's first name(s)Richard
Spouse's father's last nameMorran
Spouse's father's occupationFarmer
Registration year1876
Registration quarter year1876
Volume9
Page33
SourceView the source record
Record setIreland Civil Marriage Registers Index
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Marriage & Divorce
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Date obtained from church records by May Lally Oct 1999

Ireland Marriages 1845-1958 Transcription

First name(s)Philip
Last nameM'Ging
Registration year1876
Registered Quarter/Year1876
Registration districtBallinrobe
Volume9
Page33
MarriageFinder™Philip M'Ging married one of these people
Catherine O'Nel, Bridget Lydon, Nappy Morran, Bridget Joyce
County-
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Record setIrish Marriages 1845-1958
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryMarriages & divorces
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First name(s)Philip
Last nameMcGing
Address-
Marriage year1876
Marriage date24 Feb 1876
ParishTourmakeady
Alternative parish namesBallygovey, Ballyovey
DioceseTuam
Spouse's first name(s)Penelope
Spouse's last nameMorrin
Spouse's address-
CountyMayo
CountryIreland
RepositoryNational Library of Ireland
National Library of Ireland l

http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632012#page/1/mode/1up

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CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryMarriages & divorces
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Civil Marriage Record
Date of Marriage:23-Feb-1876
Parish / District:Cappaghduff districtCounty:Co. Mayo
HusbandWife
Name:PhilipMcGingNappyMorran
Address:Ardary Co MayoChurchfield Co Galway
Denomination:Civil ParishCivil Parish
Occupation:FARMERN.R.
Age:2819
Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's FatherWife's Father
Name:PatrickMcGingRichardMorran
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:FARMERFARMER
Husband's MotherWife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1Witness 2
Name:JamesMcGingCatherineMorran
Address:
Notes:
CHAPEL OF BALLYOVIE. He died on November 5, 1923, at age 78, in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG.

Per Aunt May, Philip had borthers in America which is why he had 100 pounds to be able to wed Penelope. But he married in 1876, so only Patrick, Austin or James clould do so. But Austin married in 1872 in Ireland, so have to consider the likelihood it was Patrick or James.

Church Baptism Record
Name: Philip Ging
Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 18-Oct-1845
Address: Tonelegee Parish/District: Aghagower RC parish
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Patrick Ging Mother: Jane Ging
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Thomas Nl Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Nl
Notes:
(E) 2/6

1901

Residents of a house 9 in Churchfield Lower (Ballinchalla, Mayo)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
McGing Philip 52 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
McGing Nappy 44 Female Wife Roman Catholic
McGing Mary 20 Female Daughter R Catholic
McGing John 17 Male Son R Catholic
McGing Jane 13 Female Daughter R Catholic
McGing Philip 11 Male Son R Catholic
McGing Martin 9 Male Son R Catholic
McGing Bridget 7 Female Daughter R Catholic
McGing Thomas 5 Male Son R Catholic
McGing Penelopa 3 Female Daughter R Catholic
McGing Francis 1 Male Son R Catholic


Per 1901 census - Nappy(44) wife-Mary(20)-John(17)-Jane(13)-Philip(11)-Martin(9)-Bridget(7)-Thomas(5)-Penelope(3)-Francis(1)

Name: Phillip McGing
Registration district: Ballinrobe
Record type: DEATHS
Registration date - quarter and year: Oct - Dec 1923
Estimated birth year: 1846
Age: 77
Mother surnames:
Film number: 101736
Volume: 4
Page: 29
Digital GS number: 4202043
Image number: 00120
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes 1845-1958


1911
Residents of a house 7 in Churchfield Lower (Ballinchalla, Mayo)
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Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses Years Married Children Born Children Living
Mc Ging Philip 63 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Co Mayo Farmer Read and write Irish and English Widower - - - -
Mc Ging Jane 30 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Mayo - Read and write Irish and English Single - - - -
Mc Ging Martin 18 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Mayo Farmers Son Read and write Irish and English Single - - - -
Mc Ging Thomas 15 Male Son Roman Catholic Co Mayo Scholar Read and write Irish and English Single - - - -
Mc Ging Bridget 13 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Mayo Scholar Read and write Irish and English Single - - - -
Mc Ging Penlope 11 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Co Mayo Scholar Read and write Irish and English Single - - - -
Report any error in transcription. (Research):SR District/Reg Area - Ballinrobe
Death of PHILLIP McGING in 1923
Civil Registration District/Office
Name PHILLIP McGING
Year of Death 1923
Group Registration ID 3329638
SR District/Reg Area Ballinrobe
Deceased Age at Death 77


From the gravestone at Churchfield, Co Mayo, Ireland

In loving memory of Philip (Churchfield, Co Mayo, Ireland) who died Nov 5th 1923, aged 77 years and his wife Penelope, died Aug 8th 1906, aged 52 and their daughter-in-law Bridget Donohue, died April 14, 1950, aged 51 years.

From my Aunt Anne:

Most of Philip's children left the area. Liverpool and Glasgow were very Irish cities. You were either an Orangeman or a Fenian. It was dangerous - so brothers stayed together for security. The McGing men were tall and strong. I was told by a man who knew them on comparing my brothers to the McGing brothers who went before them, 'They were only a bunch of Donohoes'. Ask Sister Helen about those Westport McGings.

Dear Mr. McGing:
The following are the references for the births of the children of Philip McGing and Penolope "Nappy" Moran: All are recorded in the Cappaghduff district birt registers. You can order copies from the Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, Newantrim Street, Castlebar, Co. Mayo at $8 each quoting the references below. We do not hold records of death after 1901 but I would expect that the Registry will ber able to locate the deaths since the location and approximate dates are know.

Child Year Reg. Page Entry
Patrick 1877 4 49 243
Michael 1878 4 90 448
Mary 1880 5 35 174
Augustin 1883 5 40 197
John 1884 7 33 162
James 1886 8 27 131
Jane 1887 8 55 271
Philip 1890 9 6 29
Martin 1892 9 67 333
Bridget 1896 10 32 160
Thomas 1897 10 73 362
Nappy 1899 10 100 500
Frances 1900 11 29 145

Yours sicnerely,
Gerard M. Delaney.

1901 Irish Census
Residents of a house 9 in Churchfield Lower (Ballinchalla, Mayo)
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Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
McGing Philip 52 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
McGing Nappy 44 Female Wife Roman Catholic
McGing Mary 20 Female Daughter R Catholic
McGing John 17 Male Son R Catholic
McGing Jane 13 Female Daughter R Catholic
McGing Philip 11 Male Son R Catholic
McGing Martin 9 Male Son R Catholic
McGing Bridget 7 Female Daughter R Catholic
McGing Thomas 5 Male Son R Catholic
McGing Penelopa 3 Female Daughter R Catholic
McGing Francis 1 Male Son R Catholic

1911 Irish Census
Residents of a house 7 in Churchfield Lower (Ballinchalla, Mayo)
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Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Mc Ging Philip 63 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic
Mc Ging Jane 30 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Mc Ging Martin 18 Male Son Roman Catholic
Mc Ging Thomas 15 Male Son Roman Catholic
Mc Ging Bridget 13 Female Daughter Roman Catholic
Mc Ging Penlope 11 Female Daughter Roman Catholic

http://www.irishgraveyards.ie/plot.php?plotno=8&yardid=104§ion=Old

Ireland Deaths 1864 - 1958 Transcription
First name(s) Phillip
Last name McGing
Age at death 77
Birth year 1846
Registered year 1923
Registered quarter/year Oct - Dec 1923
Registration district Ballinrobe
Volume 4
Page 29
County Galway, Mayo
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Deaths 1864 - 1958
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Subcategory Deaths & burials
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Gravestone Inscription Record
Name: Philip McGing Date of Death: 05-Nov-1923
Age: 77 Parish / District: BALLYOVEY CIVIL PARISH
Address: Churchfield County: Co. Mayo
Status: Denomination: Civil Parish / District
Occupation: Sex: Male
Graveyard
Graveyard: CHURCHFIELD Plot No: 190
Notes:


Philip McGing
BIRTH1846
DEATHNov 1923 (aged 76– 77)
BURIAL Churchfield Cemetery Tourmakeady, County Mayo, Ireland
PLOTSection- A Plot- 10
MEMORIAL ID169615455 · View Source.

Penelope Morrin was born on August 6, 1857 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. She and Philip McGing were married on February 24, 1876 in Ballyovey, Mayo, IrelandG, Ireland Civil Marriage Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Philip
Last nameMcGing
SexMale
Age28
Birth year1848
Marital statusBachelor
Condition (as transcribed)B
OccupationFarmer
ResidenceArdary Co Mayo
Marriage year1876
Marriage date23 Feb 1876
DenominationRoman Catholic
Church nameBallyovic
Registration districtBallinrobe
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
Parish-
CountyMayo
CountryIreland
Spouse's first name(s)Nappy
Spouse's last nameMorran
Spouse's age19
Spouse's marital statusS
Spouse's residenceChurchfield Co Galway
Father's first name(s)Patrick
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Spouse's father's first name(s)Richard
Spouse's father's last nameMorran
Spouse's father's occupationFarmer
Registration year1876
Registration quarter year1876
Volume9
Page33
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Record setIreland Civil Marriage Registers Index
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Marriage & Divorce
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Date obtained from church records by May Lally Oct 1999

Ireland Marriages 1845-1958 Transcription

First name(s)Philip
Last nameM'Ging
Registration year1876
Registered Quarter/Year1876
Registration districtBallinrobe
Volume9
Page33
MarriageFinder™Philip M'Ging married one of these people
Catherine O'Nel, Bridget Lydon, Nappy Morran, Bridget Joyce
County-
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Record setIrish Marriages 1845-1958
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryMarriages & divorces
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First name(s)Philip
Last nameMcGing
Address-
Marriage year1876
Marriage date24 Feb 1876
ParishTourmakeady
Alternative parish namesBallygovey, Ballyovey
DioceseTuam
Spouse's first name(s)Penelope
Spouse's last nameMorrin
Spouse's address-
CountyMayo
CountryIreland
RepositoryNational Library of Ireland
National Library of Ireland l

http://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632012#page/1/mode/1up

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CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryMarriages & divorces
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Civil Marriage Record
Date of Marriage:23-Feb-1876
Parish / District:Cappaghduff districtCounty:Co. Mayo
HusbandWife
Name:PhilipMcGingNappyMorran
Address:Ardary Co MayoChurchfield Co Galway
Denomination:Civil ParishCivil Parish
Occupation:FARMERN.R.
Age:2819
Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's FatherWife's Father
Name:PatrickMcGingRichardMorran
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:FARMERFARMER
Husband's MotherWife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1Witness 2
Name:JamesMcGingCatherineMorran
Address:
Notes:
CHAPEL OF BALLYOVIE. She died on August 8, 1906, at age 49, in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG.

Per Aunt Ann - After their mother (Penelope Morrin) died in 1906 some of the family kept in touch with Aunt Mary - the eldest sister in Ballinrobe but seems to have lost touch after they moved to Dublin. Penelope, James and Michael kept in touch with the old home in Churchfield until 1958 when the old home was sold.



Wedding witnesses were James McGing and Catherine Morrin

In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that her name was Anne Penelope Morrin. First time I heard the use of teh name Anne.

Gravestone Inscription Record
Name: Penelope McGing Date of Death: 08-Aug-1906
Age: 52 Parish / District: BALLYOVEY CIVIL PARISH
Address: Churchfield County: Co. Mayo
Status: Denomination: Civil Parish / District
Occupation: Sex: Female
Graveyard
Graveyard: CHURCHFIELD Plot No: 190
Notes. (Research):https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05552/4557545.pdf


1901 Census for Ballinrobe, Ballinchalla, Churchfield Lower

Christian Name Name Relation Religion Education Age Sex Occupation Marriage Where Born Irish Language
Phillip McGing Head of Family Catholic Read and Write 52 M Farmerr Married Co Mayo Irish & English
Nappy McGing Wife Catholic Read and Write 44 F Farmers Wife Married Co Mayo Irish & English
Mary McGing Daughter Catholic Read and Write 20 F Farmers Daughter Not married Co Mayo Irish & English
John McGing Son Catholic Read and Write 17 M Farmers Son Not married Co Mayo Irish & English
Jane McGing Daughter Catholic Read and Write 13 F Scholar Not married Co Mayo Irish & English
Philip McGing Son Catholic Read and Write 11 M Scholar Not married Co Mayo Irish & English
Martin McGing Son Catholic Read only 9 M Scholar Not married Co Mayo Irish & English
Bridget McGing Daughter Catholic Read only 7 F Scholar Not married Co Mayo
Thomas McGing Son Catholic Cannot Read 5 M Scholar Not married Co Mayo
Penelope McGing Daughter Catholic Cannot read 3 F Not married Co Mayo
Francis McGing Son Catholic Cannot read 1 M Not married Co Mayo.

Patrick McGing was born on February 24, 1877 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. He died on May 25, 1905, at age 28, in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG.

Https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1877/03018/2105875.pdf

Ireland Civil Birth Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Patrick
Last nameMcGing
SexMale
Birth year1877
Birth date24 Feb 1877
Birth placeChurchfield
Registration districtBallinrobe
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
CountyMayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Philip
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Father's addressChurchfield
Mother's first name(s)Nappy
Mother's last nameMorran
Registration year1877
Registration quarter yearJan - Mar 1877
Volume4
Page61
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SubcategoryCivil Births
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The eldest. Worked in the Tourmakeady saw mills and got TB and died at home. Per Aunt May, he came home from working in Scotland and was in bad health and died at home.

Per Aunt Ann - Pat : Born 1877. Worked in the Tourmakeady saw-mills and got T.B from wettings and died at home about 1904.

In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that Patrick died 5/25/1905

DC says he was a bachelor
.

Name: Patrick Mcging
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 24 Feb 1877
birthplace: Ireland
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Philip Mcging
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Nappy Mcging Morran
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00548-3
system origin: Ireland-ODM
source film number: 255974


name: Patrick Mcging
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 24 Feb 1877
birthplace: Ireland
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Philip Mcging
father's birthplace: Churchfield
father's age:
mother's name: Nappy Mcging Morran
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C00548-3
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 255974
reference number: v 4-1 p 61

Not on 1901 Census - must have moved, supports being in Scotland

Civil Birth Record
Name: Patrick McGing Date of Birth: 24-Feb-1877
Date of Baptism: 28-Feb-1877
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Penelope Morran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Michael Lydon Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
E NAPPY/PENELOPE. MICHAEL LYDON "PRESENT AT BIRTH."
Church Baptism Record
Name: Patrick Maginn Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 18-Feb-1877
Address: Parish/District: Ballyovey RC parish
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip Maginn Mother: Penelope Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Patrick Boyle Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Catherine Morrin. (Research):https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05591/4571056.pdf


Civil Birth Record
Name: Patrick McGing Date of Birth: 24-Feb-1877
Registration Date: 28-Feb-1877
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Penelope Morran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Michael Lydon Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
E NAPPY/PENELOPE. MICHAEL LYDON "PRESENT AT BIRTH."

Philip Mcging
mentioned in the record of Patrick Mcging
Name: Philip Mcging
Birthplace: Churchfield
Gender: Male
Wife: Nappy Mcging Morran
Son: Patrick Mcging
Other information in the record of Patrick Mcging
from Ireland Births and Baptisms
Name: Patrick Mcging
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 24 Feb 1877
Birthplace: Ireland
Father's Name: Philip Mcging
Father's Birthplace: Churchfield
Mother's Name: Nappy Mcging Morran
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00548-3 , System Origin: Ireland-EASy , GS Film number: 255974 , Reference ID: v 4-1 p 61.

Michael McGing was born on September 21, 1878 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. He and Unknown () were married in Liverpool, Lancashire, EnglandG. He died in 1950, at age ~72, in EnglandG.

Michael McGing was also known as Michael McGinn. There is a 1915 Scottish Valuation role that has the following.
at #6 Barntopn St, one Michael Conaboy is the proprieter of a rooming house. Living in this include a Thomas Ging, laborer, Austin Gin, Laborer and Michael Ging, a mason.

My family lore says that my grandfather, for a time, went to Scotland with his broithers who were working there. I think this is them.


Ireland Civil Birth Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Michael
Last nameMcGing
SexMale
Birth year1878
Birth date09 Nov 1878
Birth placeChurchfield
Registration districtBallinrobe
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
CountyMayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Philip
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Father's addressChurchfield
Mother's first name(s)Nappy
Mother's last nameMorran
Registration year1878
Registration quarter yearOct - Dec 1878
Volume4
Page34
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SubcategoryCivil Births
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Civil Birth Record
Name: Michael McGing Date of Birth: 09-Nov-1878
Registration Date: 1-Jan-0
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Church Of Ireland
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Nappy Morran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:

Lived his life in Liverpool and Glasgow. Married but had no family. Died about 1964. He always kept in touch with home.

Per sister Jane's 1935 Will, was in Tourmakeady.

In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that Michael died in England in th 40s or 50s and had no children.

Not sure this is him but:

Michael Mcging, "United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941"

And per Aunt May, Michael also went by the name "George".

name: Michael Mcging
event type: Military Service
event year range: 1918-1921
event place: United Kingdom
birthplace: Mayo
birth year: 1884
film number:
digital folder number:
Citing this Record
"United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KC7B-RT8 : accessed 31 Dec 2012), Michael Mcging, .

Not on 1901 Census so moved from home

But UK census possibly has him:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
23, Whitelaw Street, Glasgow, Maryhill, Lanarkshire, Scotland

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Loggon Head Married Male 36 1865 General Labourer Ireland
Bridget Loggon Wife Married Female 31 1870 - Ireland
Michael Loggon Son Single Male 5 1896 - Ireland
William Loggon Son Single Male 3 1898 - Maryhill, Lanarkshire, Scotland Mary Loggon Daughter Single Female 1 1900 - Maryhill, Lanarkshire, Scotland
James Burt Boarder Single Male 23 1878 General Labourer Ireland
Michael McGing Boarder Single Male 19 1882 General Labourer Ireland
Patrick Mulroy Visitor Married Male 26 1875 General Labourer Ireland
Sarah Mulroy Visitor Married Female 25 1876 - Maryhill, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Sarah Mulroy Visitor Single Female 4 1897 - Maryhill, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Kate Mulroy Visitor Single Female 0 1901 - Ireland

In May 3, 1911, one Michael McGing of Churchfield was arrested for his dog killing a neighbor Michael Burke's lamb and fined 10 (?) plus 2 (?) and the dog was declared dangerous and ordered destroyed. (Research):https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02938/2076306.pdf


Unable to trace in the English death and marriage index records.

Aunt May said this: Michael went to Liverpool, married and had one daughter.

Aunt Anne said - Michael : Born 1881 in Churchfield. Lived his life in Liverpool and Glasgow. Married but had no family. Died about 1964. He always kept in touch with home.

In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that Michael died in the 40s or 50s so this one below is unlikely to be my guy.


Church Baptism Record
Name: Michael McGinn Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 21-Sep-1878
Address: Parish/District: Ballyovey RC parish
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip McGinn Mother: Penelope Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Richard Morrin Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Catherine Morrin
Notes:
E.
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Civil Birth Record
Name: Michael McGing Date of Birth: 09-Nov-1878
Date of Baptism: 1-Jan-0
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Church Of Ireland
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Nappy Morran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:

Ireland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Transcription
First name(s)Michael
Last nameMcGinn
Birth year-
Baptism year1878
Baptism date21 Sep 1878
ParishTourmakeady
Alternative parish namesBallygovey, Ballyovey
DioceseTuam
CountyMayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Philip
Father's last nameMcGinn
Mother's first name(s)Penelope
Mother's last name-
RepositoryNational Library of Ireland
National Library of Ireland linkhttp://registers.nli.ie//registers/vtls000632012#page/1/mode/1up
RegisterBaptism
Record setIreland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryParish Baptisms
Collections fromIreland.

John McGing was born on August 25, 1884 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. He died on November 2, 1929, at age 45, in Tazwell, VirginaG.

John McGing was also known as John McGinn. Went to the US to join brother James. They went West to look for gold and owned several taverns on the West Coast. John decided to go to Australia and was never heard of again. Was in Butte MT in 1910

James apparently stayed in Tacoma Washington but John just disappears.

In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that John emigrated to Australia and family had not heard from him in 40 years.


Aunt Ann says -

John : Boen 1884. Went to the US to join James. They went West to look for gold and owned several taverns on the West Coast. John decided to go to Australia and was never heard of again.

Civil Birth Record
Name: John Maging Date of Birth: 25-Aug-1884
Date of Baptism: 1-Jan-0
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip Maging Mother: Nappy Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
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Church Baptism Record
Name: John McGinn Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 17-May-1884
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Ballyovey RC parish
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip McGinn Mother: Penelope Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Michael Quinn Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Quinn
Notes:
E.
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Civil Birth Record
Name: John Maging Date of Birth: 25-Aug-1884
Date of Baptism: 1-Jan-0
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip Maging Mother: Nappy Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
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I have a singleton JOh\n McGing who died 11/2/1929 in Nluefield, Tazewell County, Virginia. Could this be this missing granduncle who went to Australia? I suspect Tasmania and Tazewell might sound the same to some, such as Tipperary being written down for Tourmakeady (as I've seen). Just a thought. (Research):I wrote to the ILWU, Local 23 in Tacoma to see if they had any records of my granduncle James. They did not, but they did have this:

"After looking over our records the only thing we have been able to find is that there was a John McGinn (McGaugin) in General Cargo Local #383, which was around from 1909 - 1933. He joined sometime in 1918. The name in parenthesis might be a different spelling of the name, we are not sure, it was on the card next to his name. That is all we have. Unfortunately our records do not go back that far.

Rebecca Edwards
Assistant Financial Assistant"

The dates line up and the name is there, it is a good supposition this could be him.

Given Name: John
Surname: McGing
Last Place of Residence: Westport, Ireland
Event Date: 30 May 1914
Age: 30y
Nationality: British; Irish
Departure Port: Queenstown
Arrival Port: New York
Gender: Male
Marital Status: S
Citizenship Status:
Ship Name: Baltic



Citing this Record:
"New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJ3R-6MR : accessed 18 August 2015), John McGing, 30 May 1914; citing departure port Queenstown, arrival port New York, ship name Baltic, NARA microfilm publication T715 and M237 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

If he did go to Oz, it'd be after 1930, given brother James situation.

1939 Australia Election Rolls

First name(s)John
Last nameMcGinn
SexMale
Birth year-
Year1939
OccupationCollector
House name11
StreetWingfield Avenue
Address11 Wingfield Avenue
Place-
DistrictPerth
Sub-districtWest Perth
Number3064
StateWestern Australia
CountryAustralia
Page52
Record setAustralia Electoral Rolls
CategoryCensus, land & surveys
SubcategoryElectoral Rolls
Collections fromAustralasia, Australia

Candidates
Western Australia Death index Transcription
First name(s) John
Last name McGinn
Death year 1940
Place Perth
State Western Australia
Country Australia
Registration number 659
Record set Western Australia Death index
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Australia & New Zealand

Result - not him. Australian DC says father name John mother's name Mary Ann Cockell.

Martin McGing was born on December 1, 1892 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. He died on October 27, 1930, at age 37, in Birkenhead, EnglandG.

Martin McGing was also known as Martin McGinn. Https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02322/1869533.pdf

Surname Given Name Age District Volume Page Transcriber
Deaths Dec 1930
McGinnMartin35Birkenhead 8a572marsdavs

Note use of McGinn, not McGing

Per Aunt Ann - Worked in Liverpool and then in Glasgow and must have stayed there, he did not keep in touch. He was always getting into fights.

Martin is listed with fanily in 1911 census, so he left after 1911.

Aunt May said simply that he lived and died in England.

Per sister Jane's 1965 Will, was in Liverpool.

In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that Martin died 10/27/1930 in England and had no children.


Church Baptism Record
Name: Martin McGing Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 24-Aug-1892
Address: Parish/District: Ballyovey RC parish
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Penelope Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Michael Quinn Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Quinn
Notes:
E. 3-6
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There is a Martin McGing (McGinn) who went to Australia in 1941 who said he had a cousin Michael in Lewisham Hospital, London. If he lied about his age, it'd fit, as the one who enlisted in teh Oz Army said born in Dec 1903, and our was born Dec 1892. (Research):Ireland Civil Birth Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Martin
Last nameMcGing
SexMale
Birth year1892
Birth date01 Dec 1892
Birth placeChurchfield Co Galway
Registration districtCappaghduff
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
CountyGalway, Mayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Philip
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Father's addressChurchfield
Mother's first name(s)Nappy
Mother's last nameMorran
Registration year1892
Registration quarter yearOct - Dec 1892
Volume4
Page34
SourceView the source record
Record setIreland Civil Birth Registers Index
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Births
Collections fromIreland
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Presuming date of death in 1940s

However, there is a Martin McGing in the US Census who was age 53 and naturalized and in teh US from at least 1935 and working in Cleveland.

Civil Birth Record
Name: Martin McGing Date of Birth: 01-Dec-1892
Registration Date: 07-Dec-1892
Address: Churchfield Co Galway Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Penelope Morran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Mary McGing Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
E NAPPY/PENELOPE. MARY MCGING "PRESENT AT BIRTH."
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Unable to trace later in life.

Philip John McGing was born on June 21, 1890 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. He died on August 7, 1927, at age 37, in San Diego, San Diego County, CaliforniaG. He was buried on August 15, 1927 in Mount Hope Cemetery, San Diego County, CaliforniaG.

Philip John McGing was also known as Philip McGinn. Https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1890/02415/1900015.pdf


Ireland Civil Birth Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Philip
Last nameMcGing
SexMale
Birth year1890
Birth date21 Jun 1890
Birth placeChurchfield Galway
Registration districtCappaghduff
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
CountyGalway, Mayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Philip
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Father's addressChurchfield
Mother's first name(s)Nappy
Mother's last nameMorran
Registration year1890
Registration quarter yearJul - Sep 1890
Volume4
Page41
SourceView the source record
Record setIreland Civil Birth Registers Index
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Births
Collections fromIreland
© Findmypast



Civil Birth Record
Name: Philip McGing Date of Birth: 21-Jun-1890
Registration Date: 16-Jul-1890
Address: Churchfield Co. Galway Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Penelope Morran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Pat McGing Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
E NAPPY/PENELOPE. PAT MCGING "PRESENT AT BIRTH."
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Church Baptism Record
Name: Philip McGinn Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 22-Jun-1890
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Ballyovey RC parish
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip McGinn Mother: Penelope Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Michael McGinn Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Quinn
Notes:
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From my Aunt Anne:

His father's favorite son. His father wanted him in Churchfield as his heir but he left too. He was in London in 1914 and joined the Irish Guards. He fought and was decorated for his bravery at the Battle of Mons early in WW1. He came home when the war was over but he could not settle on a farm and went off to the US. He went to San Francisco and like his brothers, he always signed himself McGinn. He died there a few years later from shrapnel in his body since the war. I wrote to the British Legion looking for his Army records but they said that most of WW1 records had been bombed during WW2 and could not help. Was 6'1" and had fair hair and blue eyes.

June 2009 - I found the citation for award for Philip McGinn and it fits.

Philip is NOT listed in 1911 Irish census either at home or on his own, making it likely he had gone to London.

Found his Declaration of Intehntion from 1925, says he came in 1919 on the Cedric to NY and worked as a stevedore, The document filed in Los Angeles in 1925.

Philip John Mcging
United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941
birth: 1888 Mayo
military service: United Kingdom
Name Philip John Mcging
Event Type Military Service
Event Year Range 1918-1921
Event Place United Kingdom
Birthplace Mayo
Birth Year 1888
GS Film number
Digital Folder Number

1911 Census For England & Wales
Chelsea Bridge Road Pimlico S W, St George Hanover Square, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s)Philip
Last nameMcGinn
Relationship-
Marital statusSingle
SexMale
Age20
Birth year1891
Birth placeYalway Mountporty
Occupation-
House name-
House number-
StreetChelsea Bridge Road
AddressChelsea Bridge Road Pimlico S W
ParishSt George Hanover Square
CountyLondon, Middlesex
CountryEngland
Archive referenceRG14
Registration districtSt George Hanover Square
Registration district number5
Enumeration district32
District number32
Sub districtBelgrave
Sub district number2
Census referenceRG14PN464 RG78PN15 RD5 SD2 ED32 SN1
RG78 code number15
Piece number464
Folio-
Page-
Other household member first name(s)-
Other household member last name-
Record set1911 Census For England & Wales
CategoryCensus, Land & Substitutes

SubcategoryCensus
Collections fromGreat Britain, England

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription
First name(s) Philip
Last name Mcging
Service number 3/9768
Regiment Royal Irish Regiment
Unit / Battalion 3rd Battalion
Event year 1915
Age 24
Birth year 1891
Birth town -
Birth county Mayo
Birth country Ireland
Residence town -
Residence county Mayo
Series WO 364
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
Category Military Service & Conflict
Record collection First World War
Collections from United Kingdom

Could be same guy as the two services were one after the other. (Research):I have the UK military records and those show he was a RIC Constable in Co Down, and I have the RIC records for a Philip as well.

In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that Philip died as noted here and had no children.

Per Aunt Ann -

Philip : Born 1890 - his father's favourite son. His father wanted him in Churchfield as his heir but he left too. He was in London in 1914 and joined the Irish Guards. He fought and was decorated for his bravery at the Battle of Mons early in WW1. He came home when the war was over but he could not settle on a farm and went off to the US. He went to San Francisco and like dhis brothers, he always signed himself McGinn. He died there a few years later from schrapnel in his body since the war. I wrote to the British Legion looking for his Army records but they said that most of WW1 records had been bombed during WW2 and could not help.


From a California Death certificate:

County of San Diego, Alpine Sanitorium, Philip McGinn, white, male, single, born June 22, 1893 age 34 years, 1 month and 16 days.. Occupation, fireman merchant marine. Place of birth, Brooklyn New York, Faher: Philip McGinn, father POB: Tipperary. Ireland Mother Maiden Name: Maron Penlop, mother POB Boston Mass. resided in Sanitorium 1 year, 3 months, 14 days. Resided in California 18 years. Died August 7, 1927 from pulmonary tuberculosis of 1 year, 6 months duration with Bronchial asthma as contributory for 8 years. Infomration provided by Records, Alpine Sanitorium, Burial: Masoric Cemetary, August 15, 1927.

Buried Mount Hope Cemetery, San Diego California. Masonic Section (Masonic Cemetery having been assumed by Mount Hope). Letter U, Lot 4, Grave 29

Obviously there are discrepancies between the family lore and this possible match; what I find striking is the name match on father and the fact that Maron Penlop looks so strikingly like a reversed Penelope Morrin. Discrepancies regarding places of birth are most likely due to the errors in the institutions records. My Aunt May has told me that often, when they said they came from Tourmakeady, that it was interpreted as Tipperary, as perhaps is done here.

The title of the book is, "ALPINE - Southern California - History of a Mountain Settlement" by Beatrice La Force. Published in 1971 by The Sunlight Press, El Cajon,
California. Page 319.

"Around World War I, Dr. Hyman Lischner of San Diego took over the Los Robles Hotel, the former Benjamin Arnold home, and made it into a sanitorium for victims of respiratory diseases. Most patients were "gassed" soldiers an others who had contracted tuberculosis in the Service.

This was a modern facility, for the time, with complete hospital care, including guided recreation for convalescents. Service men from all over the country were sent here. Dr. Barkema, a Hollander educated abroad, was brought over by Dr. Lischner as his associate. Many local people remember the hospital as a very busy place which added to the interest and commerce of the village. This is another instance where fire ended things, for the sanitorium burned down in 1923. Immediately following, Dr. Barkema built his own sanitorium on Tavern Road across from the present home of Mrs. Manila Colby.

The design was an attractive one, small cottages, planned to accommodate one or two patients only, built around the central hospital, with quarters for staff members completing the lay out. For several years, under Dr. Barkema's direction, the hospital flourished. When he left to work in a larger sanitorium near Los Angeles, Dr. Gehring took his place and stayed some years, building a substantial home for his family on Alpine Terrace. An Alpine Chamber of Commerce brochure for 1931 lists the "ALPINE SANITORIUM AND GENERAL HOSPITAL, Open to All Classes of
Cases, R.J. Sewell, M.D. Medical Director and REsident Physician and Surgeon."

Around 1942 the Sanitorium closed and sold to become the Alpine Villa apartments, as it is today."

Research courtesy of Sharlene Williams

Philip John Mcging, "United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941"

name: Philip John Mcging
event type: Military Service
event year range: 1918-1921
event place: United Kingdom
birthplace: Mayo
birth year: 1888
film number:
digital folder number:
Citing this Record
"United Kingdom, Merchant Navy Seamen Records, 1835-1941," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KC7B-RT6 : accessed 31 Dec 2012), Philip John Mcging,

Per Aunt May:

What this does not tell us is that Philip Jnr. served in the British Army in World War 1. He had emigrated to England and according to May Lally fell for the line put about by recruiting sergeants that they would be fighting for 'Catholic Belgium' and the rights of small nations. There was also the fact that work at the time was very slack in England. He fought in the Battle of Mons and other battles, was decorated, survived the War and came back to a cold welcome in a changed Ireland. Their father Philp Snr. was ashamed of him and Peadar Cavanagh, their brother-in-law, who was in the Gaelic League and an avid admirer of all things Irish, despised him. Philip came out of the War with shrapnel wounds, other ailments and shell shock. He emigrated to California for the climate and died unmarried in 1927. May recalls that Miss Gillen a teacher in Trianlaur told her that before he left, he visited her mother, Mrs. Gillen, who had taught him in Treen school and that this unique gesture was much appreciated and that Philip was 'a real gentleman'.

He was in London in 1911. He is recorded on England's 1911 census as a signaller in the British army at Chelsea Barracks, aged 21 with his birthplace named as Mountporty, Galway.

There is no Mountporty on record. It looks like Mountparty, which could be Mount Partry or the Partry Mountains overlooking Lough Mask. It could be that his declaration was transcribed wrongly by whomever was filling out the barracks form or that he himself had been trying to cover his own tracks.

Possible -
Record Transcription:
British Armed Forces, First World War Soldiers' Medical Records
First name(s)P
Last nameMcGinn
Birth year1890
Age25
Admission year1915
Admission date08 Aug 1915
RankPrivate
Service number3260
Battalion1
CorpsIrish Guards
DescriptionLocal admissions.
Hospital18Th General Hospital
CountryGreat Britain
Archive
The National Archives
Series descriptionWar Office: First World War Representative Medical Records of Servicemen
PieceMH 106/1086
Register typeHospital admission and discharge registers
Record year range1915 July 1-Aug. 22
Record setBritish Armed Forces, First World War Soldiers' Medical Records
CategoryMilitary Service & Conflict
SubcategoryFirst World War
Collections fromGreat Britain, UK None.

James McGing was born on September 1, 1886 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. He died on August 9, 1971, at age 84, in Tacoma, Pierce County, WashingtonG.

James McGing was also known as James McGinn. Civil Birth Record
Name: James McGing Date of Birth: 01-Sep-1886
Registration Date: 16-Mar-1863
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Nappy Morran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:

He left home at the age of 13 1/2 and joined his brothers in Liverpool and Glasgow. Went to the US about 1910. Was in Butte MT staying with Patrick McGing.

James settled in Tacoma, Washington. He always kept in touch with Home. He came to Chicago to visit his brother Thomas in 1959 who was a baby when he left home. He died in Tacoma in 1971

In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that James had not been heard from for 40 years and was living in th Pacific northwest. Hmmm, so how did they visit in 1959?

Was in WWI per Aunt May.

Per Aunt Ann -

James : Born 1883. He left home at the age of 13 1/2 and joined his brothers in Liverpool and Glasgow. Went to the US about 1910. James settled in Tacoma, Washington. He always kept in touch with Home. He came to Chicago to visit his brother Thomas in 1959 who was a baby when he left home. He died in Tacoma in 1968.


Not in 1901 census.

Church Baptism Record
Name: James McGing Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 23-May-1886
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Ballyovey RC parish
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Penelope Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Michael Heneghan Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Quinn
Notes:
E.
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Ireland Civil Birth Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)James
Last nameMcGing
SexMale
Birth year1886
Birth date01 Sep 1886
Birth placeChurchfield
Registration districtCappaghduff
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
CountyGalway, Mayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Philip
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Father's addressChurchfield
Mother's first name(s)Nappy
Mother's last nameMorran
Registration year1886
Registration quarter yearOct - Dec 1886
Volume4
Page31
SourceView the source record
Record setIreland Civil Birth Registers Index
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Births
Collections fromIreland

Death certificate shows name as James McGinn. Father as Philip McGinn and mother as Napie Moron. He was never married, and was cremated. He lived to be 84, and worked as a longshoreman.

JAMES MCGINN 01 Sep 1886 Aug 1971 98402 (Tacoma, Pierce, WA) (none specified) 564-22-4017 California

The funeral home was contacted on July 2, 2001 and had this to say:

We have vey little information. His SS# was 564 22 4017, date of birth Sept 1886 in Ireland and had been in Tacoma since 1917. He was a longshoreman. There may have been a brother Tom but he was presumed dead. - no other relatives or fiends., He had never married. He was cremated and at his request the cremated remains were destroyed in process. There was no obituary.

Wish I could help with more but that is all there is.

John Lynn

I wrote to the ILWU, Local 23 in Tacoma to see if they had any records of my granduncle James. They did not.

Obituary Tacoma News Tribune Wednesday August 11, 1971

James McGinn, 84 of 1133 Fawcett Ave died Monday. He was born in Ireland and lived in Tacoma 54 years. He was a retired longshoreman.

Survivors include a brother, Thomas, of Cincinnati.

Private services were held Wednesday at Lynn Funeral Home

Social Security Death Index Transcription
First name(s) James
Middle name -
Last name Mcginn
Suffix -
Birth year 1886
Birth month Sep
Birth day 01
Death year 1971
Death month Aug
Death day -
Place of issue California
State California
SSN 564-22-4017
Record set Social Security Death Index
Category Birth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from United States & Canada

On his SS-5, filled out in 1942, he said he was 54 years old and born 7/4/87 (hopefully US usage) and was living in Stockton CA.

Austin McGing was born on January 10, 1883 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. He and Mary Garrick were married on January 11, 1919 in St Peter and Paul's Roman Catholic Church, Liverpool, Lancashire, EnglandG, I have the marriage cert. Witness was P McGinn and Mary Green. He and Mary Ann Smith were married on December 22, 1926 in West Derby, Lancashire, EnglandG, St Winifreds Church, Derby Road I have marriage cert. He died on April 12, 1939, at age 56, in Manchester, EnglandG.

Austin McGing was also known as Austin McGinn. Went to work at the Liverpool docks. Married and had one son - Austin. Austin Senior died in 1926 and Austin Junior was reared by his stepmother. Austin Junior allegedly died in WW2.

Per sister Jane's 1935 Will, was in Liverpool.

Not listed in Irish 1901 census that I can find

Was a coal hiaver, per marriage cert.

Per Aunt Ann - Austin : Born 1879. Went to work at the Liverpool docks. Married and had one son - Austin. Austin Snr. died in 1926 and Austin Jnr was reared by his step mother. Austin Jnr died in WW 2.


Civil Birth Record
Name: Augustin Maging Date of Birth: 10-Jan-1883
Date of Baptism: 1-Jan-0
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip Maging Mother: Nappy Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
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Civil Birth Record
Name: Augustin Maging Date of Birth: 10-Jan-1883
Registration Date: 1-Jan-0
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip Maging Mother: Nappy Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
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Note use of name Arthur -

NameArthur Austin McGing
RankSergeant
Record TypeMilitary
Birth Date1882
Residence PlaceNewcastle, Stapp
Military Service RegionWest Midlands, Midlands
Military CountryEngland
Discharge Date8 Mar 1919
Service Number702540
Corps, Regiment or UnitLABOUR CORPS
Service BranchMilitary (Army)
TitleWWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
DescriptionPension Record Ledger
Reference Number6/Mm/No.6394
Next of Kin
Next of Kin
Name
Arthur Austin McGing. (Research):In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that Austin died 4/12/1939 in Machester England.

There is a 1915 Scottish Valuation role that has teh following.
at #6 Barntopn St, one Michael Conaboyis teh proprieter of a rooming house. Living in this include a Thomas Ging, laborer, Austin Gin, Laborer and Michael Ging, a mason.

My family lore says that my grandfather, for a time, went to Scotland with his broithers who were working there. I think this is them.

1920 UK Census

First name(s)Last nameRelationship to headSexBirth yearAge in yearsBirth placeOccupationEmployer
AustinMcGinnHeadMale187942Mayo, IrelandDock LabourerCasual Employent
MaryMcGinnWifeFemale188536---
AustinMcGinnSonMale19201Bootle, Lancashire, England--
EdwardKilcoyneBoarderMale188833Mayo, IrelandDock LabourerCasual Employment


1921 UK Census

First name(s)Austin
Last nameMcGinn
SexMale
Birth year1879
Census date19 June 1921
Age in years42
Age in months5
Age as transcribed42 y 5 m
Relationship to headHead
Marital statusMarried
Birth placeMayo, Ireland
Birth countyMayo
Birth countryIreland
Transcribed birth placeCo Mayo, Ballinrobe
NationalityIrish
OccupationDock Labourer
Occupation code145
Occupation code with suffix145/6
EmployerCasual Employent
Employer code569
Place of workNo Fixed Place
Number of minor dependants1
Language used to complete formEnglish
Person making returnAustin McGinn
House number41
StreetKirk Street, Bootle
Address41 Kirk Street, Bootle
Full address as transcribed41 Kirk Street, Bootle
ParishBootle cum Linacre
Registration districtWest Derby
Registration district number455
Sub-districtBootle
Sub-district number5
Enumeration district number11
CountyLancashire
CountryEngland
ArchiveThe National Archives
Archive seriesRG 15
Piece number17618
Schedule number363
Schedule type codeE
Schedule typeEngland household, single page, 10 entries
District referenceRD 455 RS 5 ED 11
Other household member's first name(s)Mary, Edward
Other household member's last nameMcGinn, Kilcoyne
Record set1921 Census Of England & Wales
CategoryCensus, land & surveys
SubcategoryCensus
Collections fromGreat Britain, England.

Francis McGing was born on October 8, 1900 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. He died in 1908, at age ~8, in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG.

Https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1900/01971/1759809.pdf


Church Baptism Record
Name: Francis McGinn Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 12-Sep-1900
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Ballyovey RC parish
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip McGinn Mother: Penelope Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Richard Morrin Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Anne Conoboy
Notes:
E 3-6 IN PARTRY REGISTER
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Civil Birth Record
Name: Frances McGing Date of Birth: 08-Oct-1900
Registration Date: 1-Jan-0
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Female County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Nappy Moran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes. (Research):Per Aunt Ann -

Francis : Born in 1900 but died a few years later. They were all either golden haired and blue eyes OR jet black with brown eyes. (I am not too sure where they got you guys from!!!!!)


Died as a baby, age unknown. Was in 1901 census, not in 1911 census

In a probate filing for Jane McGing dated 1968. Thomas McGing (brother) stated that Francis died in infancy.

Ireland Civil Birth Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Frances
Last nameMcGing
SexFemale
Birth year1900
Birth date08 Oct 1900
Birth placeChurchfield
Registration districtCappaghduff
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
CountyGalway, Mayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Philip
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Father's addressChurchfield
Mother's first name(s)Nappy
Mother's last nameMoran
Registration year1900
Registration quarter yearOct - Dec 1900
Volume4
Page31
SourceView the source record
Record setIreland Civil Birth Registers Index
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Births
Collections fromIreland
© Findmypast.

Martin Walsh was born in 1853 in Cross, Mayo, IrelandG. He and Catherine Morrin were married on February 23, 1879 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG, Civil Marriage Record
Date of Marriage:23-Feb-1879
Parish / District:Cappaghduff districtCounty:Co. Mayo
HusbandWife
Name:MartinWalshCatherineMorran
Address:CappaduffChurchfield
Denomination:Civil ParishCivil Parish
Occupation:GROCERN.R.
Age:2620
Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's FatherWife's Father
Name:PatrickWalshRichardMorran
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:FARMERFARMER
Husband's MotherWife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1Witness 2
Name:AustinWalshBridgetConry
Address:
Notes:
CHAPEL OF BALLYOVIE
GROOMS FATHER LIVING
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Church Marriage Record
Date of Marriage:23-Feb-1879
Parish / District:Ballyovey RC parishCounty:Co. Mayo
HusbandWife
Name:MartinWalshCatherineMorrin
Address:
Denomination:Roman CatholicRoman Catholic
Occupation:
Age:
Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's FatherWife's Father
Name:N. RWalshN. RMorrin
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Husband's MotherWife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1Witness 2
Name:AustinWalshBridgetBoyle
Address:
Notes:
3-7-6
© 2015 Copyright Mayo Family History Centres. He died in March 1892, at age ~39, in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG.

Jane McGing was born on December 1, 1887 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. She and Stephen Arthur Connor were married about 1914 in California, United StatesG, 1930 US Federal Census says was 15 years married

I regret to tell you that we found no entries in marriage or baptism registers for either the Connor name nor the McGinn/McGing names. The Parish from which St Helen's was formed is that of the Cathedral of St. John the Baptist and the cathedral would have been the parish for the family address. I will return your check and include the contact information for the Cathedral and the other parishes of possible interest. My record search included appropriate registers for St. Helen, St John the Baptist and the nearby parishes of Mt Carmel, St. Alphonsus and St Therese. If we knew where the Connors met, then we might be able to narrow the search for the wedding? I am going to make some suggestions as to your search with the full understanding that you may have already carried out every one:

1. There is a California Birth Index available. It was once online through the CA Government site. and may still be? If not, Ancestry.com has it. The son should be in this listing.

2. There is also a CA Death Index available. You should expect to find the Sr Connors here. If the son died in CA, then you should find him in this index.

3. There is a CA Marriage Index, too. If the Connors married in CA they should appear.

The three indices cover the years of your interest and will include dates and locations. Ancestry.com has all three.

The Church of the Latter Day Saints has extraordinary resources when it comes to genealogy. Most of their churches also have a genealogy library open to the public where they will advise and assist people researching their families. I suggest you contact the nearest LDS church and inquire as to the location of their nearest to you library.

We wish you every success in your quest,

Scott Alston, Archivist. She died on January 20, 1964, at age 76, in Fresno, Fresno, CaliforniaG. She was buried in Holy Cross Cemetery, Fresno County, California, United StatesG.

Jane McGing was also known as Jame M. McGinn. She was also known as Jane McGinn. She was also known as Mary Jane McGinn. Https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02523/1934743.pdf

Based on the 1901 census, she was born about 1888. Based on 1911 census, born 1881.

On US 1930 Federal Census that she shaved 10 years off her age and according to her, was married in 1921 and son Thomas born in 1923. But yet her husband said he was married at age 30 and was currently 45, meaning married in 1914 - 1915. She says married in 1921 but she also says she's a LOT younger.

Mary Connor in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Mary Connor
[Mary Corman]
Birth Year: abt 1895
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Ireland
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Homemaker?: Yes
Home in 1930: Township 3, Fresno, California
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: So Backer
House Number in Cities or Towns: 470
Dwelling Number: 898
Family Number: 909
Age at First Marriage: 26
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Language Spoken: Irish
Immigration Year: 1910
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Store keeper
Industry: Self
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Employment: Yes
War: no
Household Members:
Name Age
S A Connor 45
Mary Connor 35
Thomas Connor 7
Fred Wickerson 53
Neighbors: View others on page


From ellisislandrecords.org:

Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Name: Jane MCGING
Date of departure: 18 July 1913
Port of departure: Queenstown
Destination port: New York
Destination country: USA
Age: 19
Marital Status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Spinster
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 6
The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
John MCGING
Michl MCGING
Ship: CEDRIC
Official Number: 115354
Master's name: J O Carter
Steamship Line: White Star
Where bound: New York, USA
Square feet: 10459
Registered tonnage: 13520
Passengers on voyage: 97

Note that a John and a Michael McGing were also on this ship.

I find it interesting that she is 19 and listed as spinster. There was a Julia Conoboy on this ship as well. But the John McGing listed is age 20, so unless they both took 10 years off their ages, the dates don't match. Yet I can find no other Jane McGings or McGinns.

July 25, 1913 Jane McGing, age 19 and listed as single, arrived in New York City on the ship Cedric, having sailed from Queenstown. Tourmakeady is listed as her place of birth. Occupation: Servant. Closest relative in Ireland is father James, Churchfield, Tourmakeady Co Mayo. Destination was Pittsburgh Pennsylvania. Would stay with Cousin, John Conoboy, 2123 Justin St, Pittsburgh. 5 foot, 7 inches, fair complexion, auburn hair, blue eyes. Note that a Julia Conboy and Kate Coyne both from Tourmakeady were also travelling with Jane.

MARY JANE CONNOR
Died: 01/20/1964
Fresno Catholic Cemeteries-HC HOLY CROSS SECTION E
Location 22 - 12

A requiem mass will be celebrated Mondat at 9 AM in St. Helens Church for Mary Connor, 72, owner of Connors Grocery at 500 South Backer Ave.

She died Monday in a local hospital after a short illness.

A natice of Ireland, Mrs. Connor came to Fresno 40 years ago. Besides operating the grocery, she owned several rental properties. She was formally employed as a waitress.

She has no known survivors

The rosary will be celebrated tomorrow at 7:30 PM in the Harry Palm Chapel. Burial will be in Holy Cross Cemetery.

Per the 1930 Census they were married in 1914, really soon after coming to teh US and her husband listed his occupation as a farmer in 1918 when he registered for teh draft. He also didn't list her as a spouse, instead listed his father. (Research):First mention of her being spouse to Arthur is in 1926 in the city directory. Prior editions do not show her. Calling when married into question.

Per her February 1935 will, she stated 1) that she was 39 years old (making DOB 1896?) and 2) that she had a son named Patrick Thomas Connor, who was living in San Francisco in 1935.

The wil had the town of Tourmakeady listed as Tipperary

Aunt Ann says -Jane : Born 1888. Went to the US about 1910 and settled in Fresno, California. She did not keep in touch with the family. In 1966 Patrick Cavanagh Jnr. lived in England and saw an ad in an English paper looking for the heirs of Jane McGinn from Tipperary. It mentioned all the brothers' names and that they were in Liverpool and Glasgow in 1910. It wasn't the first time Tourmakeady was mistaken for Tipperary. Eventually, he proved that they were the right family. She was his mother's sister who had not been in touch since 1910. The lawyers in Fresno, Calif. got in touch with me in Chicago looking for my father's address at that time. They asked for Thomas McGing or McGinn.

Wanted the home place. She had a boyfriend and wanted to marry but her father refused so that could have been the reason for leaving, and never getting in touch. She did not marry. She spent some years in Texas before going to California. Thomas inherited a dry oilwell (just our luck) in 1970 from her.


Civil Birth Record
Name: Jane McGing Date of Birth: 01-Dec-1887
Registration Date: 1-Jan-0
Address: Churchfield Co Galway Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Female County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Nappy Moran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:


Church Baptism Record
Name: Jane McGing Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 09-Oct-1887
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Ballyovey RC parish
Gender: Female County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Penelope Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Michael O'Neil Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Quinn
Notes:
E. 3-6
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However, given family history that says she was born in 1884, there is a 10 year discrepancy in date of birth. I believe this ellis island record does belong to this Jane because Tourmakeady is just too odd to be a different person despite the date discrepancy..


From my Aunt Anne:

Went to the US about 1910 and settled in Fresno, California. She did not keep in touch with the family. In 1966 Patrick Cavanagh Jnr. lived in England and saw an ad in an English paper looking for the heirs of Jane McGinn from Tipperary. It mentioned all the brothers' names and that they were in Liverpool and Glasgow in 1910. It wasn't the first time Tourmakeady was mistaken for Tipperary. Eventually, he proved that they were the right family. She was his mother's sister who had not been in touch since 1910. The lawyers in Fresno, Calif. got in touch with me in Chicago looking for my father's address at that time. They asked for Thomas McGing or McGinn.

Wanted the home place. She had a boyfriend and wanted to marry but her father refused so that could have been the reason for leaving, and never getting in touch. She did not marry. She spent some years in Texas before going to California. Thomas inherited a dry oilwell (just our luck) in 1970 from her.


5/16/01 Fresno County California County Recorder states that they have no probate records under either McGing or McGinn that match Jane from period 1956 - 1976. (Turns out that was because her last name was Connor.)

Wondering if she was making herself younger?

Name: Mary J Connor
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 20 Jan 1964
Event Place: Fresno, California, United States
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1891
Birthplace: Ireland
Gender: Female
Father's Name:
Mother's Name:



Citing this Record:
"California Death Index, 1940-1997," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VP48-T3N : accessed 17 November 2015), Mary J Connor, 20 Jan 1964; Department of Public Health Services, Sacramento.

Mary Josephine Connor
[Mary Josephine McGinn]
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birth Date: 23 Oct 1896
Birth Place: Republic of Ireland
Father: Phillip McGinn
Mother: Penelop Moran
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Nov 1942: Name listed as MARY JOSEPHINE CONNOR

Ireland Civil Birth Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Jane
Last nameMcGing
SexFemale
Birth year1887
Birth date01 Dec 1887
Birth placeChurchfield Galway
Registration districtCappaghduff
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
CountyGalway, Mayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Philip
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Father's addressChurchfield
Mother's first name(s)Nappy
Mother's last nameMoran
Registration year1888
Registration quarter yearJan - Mar 1888
Volume4
Page37
SourceView the source record
Record setIreland Civil Birth Registers Index
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Births
Collections fromIreland.

Penelope McGing was born on March 28, 1899 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. She and Patrick Joseph Mulroy were married on June 22, 1923 in New York, United StatesG, Our Lady of Good Counsel

Name:Penelope McGinn
Gender:Female
Marriage Date:22 Jul 1923
Marriage Place:Manhattan, New York, USA
Spouse:Patrick Mulroy
Certificate Number:23470. She died on June 22, 1944, at age 45, in New York, United StatesG.

Penelope McGing was also known as Penelope McGinn. Https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02036/1780065.pdf

Ireland Civil Birth Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Nappy
Last nameMcGing
SexFemale
Birth year1899
Birth date28 Mar 1899
Birth placeChurchfield Mayo
Registration districtCappaghduff
Superintendent's reg districtBallinrobe
CountyGalway, Mayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Philip
Father's last nameMcGing
Father's occupationFarmer
Father's addressChurchfield
Mother's first name(s)Nappy
Mother's last nameMorran
Registration year1899
Registration quarter yearApr - Jun 1899
Volume4
Page35
SourceView the source record
Record setIreland Civil Birth Registers Index
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Births
Collections fromIreland
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Per sister Jane's 1935 Will, was in Tourmakeady. Obviously not :)

Civil Birth Record
Name: Nappy McGing Date of Birth: 28-Mar-1899
Registration Date: 1-Jan-0
Address: Churchfield Co Galway Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Female County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Nappy Morran
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
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Church Baptism Record
Name: Penelope McGing Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 12-Mar-1899
Address: Churchfield Parish/District: Ballyovey RC parish
Gender: Female County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Philip McGing Mother: Penelope Morrin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Michael Morrin Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Mary Walsh
Notes:
E, 3-6

From Christine Powers:

We can't find an initial immigration record for Penelope; however, we understand that she was not in NY too terribly long before she married Patrick Joseph Mulroy (26 Jan 1897 - 09 Mar 1951).

No long after, her father died in Ireland and she returned home to visit from Aug to Nov 1922.

I believe it was your aunt (May Lally) that told me that Penelope emigrated with a friend named Julia Madden. Patrick's mother was Mary McEvaddy and many of the McEvaddys changed the surname to Madden, so that's a possibility.

Penelope and Patrick lived in the Bronx at 2433 Valentine Avenue. "They" were the building superintendents (mostly Penelope from what my mother says). Patrick worked for the NY Transit system on the trains in some capacity. Together they raised 5 children, all born in NYC:. (Research):Per Aunt Ann - Went to the US in 1919 and settled in New York. She married a man from Bohola, Co. Mayo by the name of Mulroy. They had five children - three boys and two girls. She died about 1944 and their eldest son was killed crossing the Rhine just as the War ended. The others are still there. She always kept in touch.

Changed surname to McGinn

Name: Penelope Mulroy
Titles and Terms:
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 22 Jun 1944
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Address: 2433 Valentine Ave
Residence Place: New York, Bronx, New York
Gender: Female
Age: 44
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Occupation: Housewife
Birth Date: 09 Mar 1900
Birth Year (Estimated):
Birthplace: Mayo, Ireland
Burial Date: 26 Jun 1944
Burial Place:
Cemetery: Calvary Cemetary
Father's Name: Philip Mcginn
Father's Titles and Terms:
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother's Name: Penelope Moran
Mother's Titles and Terms:
Mother's Birthplace: Ireland
Spouse's Name: Patrick
Spouse's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Gender:
Spouse's Age:
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Father's Titles and Terms:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Titles and Terms:
Note:
Reference ID: cn 14096
GS Film Number: 2132059
Frame Number:



Citing this Record:
"New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WPK-9JR : accessed 17 November 2015), Penelope Mulroy, 22 Jun 1944; citing Death, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 2,132,059.

New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948
Name: Penelope Mulroy
Age: 44
Birth Year: abt 1900
Death Date: 22 Jun 1944
Death Place: Manhattan, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 1409.

Patrick McGing was born in 1808 in Arderry, Mayo, IrelandG. He and Jane Scahill were married in February 1835 Sister Helen thinks there were at least 4 more children: Penelope [Nuala], Francis, Margaret born in 1862, and Thomas born on 19 Nov 1865. There is a Margaret McGing married to a McGreevy in the Aughagower baptismal lists. Mrs. John Sheridan is the sponsor for two of her children. This does not necessarily mean that she is Mary McGing Sheridan's sister, since there were two Sheridan families in Aughagower and both had boys, approximately the same age, named John. He died on December 20, 1884, at age ~76, in Arderry, Mayo, IrelandG.

Lived in the village of Ardara, (Arderry) parish of Aughagower.

Died Arderry 20 December,1884 aged 76 in the presence of his son James McGing, of Bronchitis after 6 days. (death cert.)

Found in the 1818 Rent Rolls of Lord Sligo in Arderry.

August 11, 1870 via Lord Browne. Complaintant (??) Malley, laborer, Arderry Parish, Aghagower Defendent Patt McGing, laborer, Arderry Parish Aghagower - Trespass of 17 head of cattle on meadow at Arderry Co Mayo on August 1, 1870. Resolution - no appearance.

New case, same date, same complaintant and defendent - Tresspass of 5 ducks twice in oats at Arderry County Mayo on August 5, 1870 Resolution - no appearance.

New Case - Margaret Malley, matron, Arderry, Parish Aghagower, Complaintant
Pat McGing, Austin McGing, Jane McGing, Honor McGing, Philip McGing, laborors, all of Arderry, Parish of Aghagower Defendents. Defendents, did on August 5 1870 at Arderry Coounty of Mayo, unlawfully assault complaintant. Resolution - no appearance.

Bessborough Commission - Patrick M'Ginn, a tenant of Lord Sligo in teh townland of Arderry, told teh commission that between 1853 and 1869 his rent had been raised 3 times from 28 pounds to 98 pounds. Rather than accept Lord Sligo's argument that the rent raises were justified by teh low rates following teh Famine, M'Ginn claimed that "according as we improved the land he raised the rent". Bessborough Commission Vol III Minutes of Evidence Pt II PP 1881 p 1370. (Research):Civil Death Record
Name: Patrick McGing Date of Death: 20-Dec-1884
Age: 76y Parish / District: Islandeady district
Address: Arderry County: Co. Mayo
Status: Married Denomination: Civil Parish
Occupation: FARMER Sex: Male
Graveyard Informant
Graveyard: Relationship: Householder
Parish: Name: James McGing
County: Address: Arderry
Notes:
INFORMANT SON.
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The fact that there is 25 years between the eldest and the youngest child has always made me wonder about the validity of these facts.

Cannot find any birth or baptismal records in Mayo, but outside there are some interesting possibilities... We know there were McGings in Dublin in late 1790- early 1800s, so perhaps? Lines up wit hthe James working theory.

Church Baptism Record
Name: Patrick Ging Date of Birth:
Date of Baptism: 06-Dec-1801
Address: Not Recorded Parish/District: ST.PAUL'S ARRAN QUAY
Gender: Male County Co. Dublin
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: Jacob Ging Mother: Eliza Not Recorded
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: John Hoey Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Alice MacMahon
Notes:
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www.rootsireland.ie.

Bridget Boyle was born on January 18, 1879 in Churchfield, Mayo, IrelandG. She and Michael Lally were married on March 25, 1908 in Cappaghduff, Mayo, IrelandG, https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10058/5658036.pdf

Civil Marriage Record
Date of Marriage:25-Mar-1908
Parish / District:Cappaghduff districtCounty:Co. Mayo
HusbandWife
Name:MichaelLallyBridgetBoyle
Address:Derry VeneaChurchfield
Denomination:Civil ParishCivil Parish
Occupation:FARMER
Age:3024
Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's FatherWife's Father
Name:ThomasLallyMichaelBoyle
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:FARMER
Husband's MotherWife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1Witness 2
Name:TomLallyMaggieBoyle
Address:
Notes:
CAPPAGHDUFF CHAPEL BRIDES FATHER DECEASED
© Copyright Mayo Family History Centres.^1,2 She died on June 24, 1917, at age 38, in Tourmakeady, Mayo, IrelandG.^1,2

From Teresa Lally: Unfortunately, Bridget contracted T.B, presumably from her many previous visits to the Boyle family home tending to the previous victims. She subsequently died on
June 24th 1917

Bridget left behind a very young family, who were reared by her parents Thomas Lally (15) and Mary Gibbons Lally (14) back in Derreveeney,Tourmakeady.

Michaels wife,Bridget Boyle of Churchfield (my father's mother) died of TB when my father was five. Mary Gibbons or Meine Mhor (as she was known) reared her family also: my father and two brothers and one sister Aunt Mary.My father only remembers his mother's clothes being burned in garden.

Church Baptism Record
Name:Bridget BoyleDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:16-Jan-1879
Address:Parish/District:Ballyovey RC parish
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Mayo
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:Michael BoyleMother:Mary Hoban
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Thomas Boyle
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary Malley
Notes:
© 2020 Copyright Mayo Family History Centres
www.rootsireland.ie

Civil Birth Record
Name:Bridget BoyleDate of Birth:19-Jan-1879
Registration Date:
Address:ChurchfieldParish/District:Cappaghduff district
Gender:FemaleCountyCo. Mayo
Denomination:Church Of Ireland
Father:Michael BoyleMother:Margaret Hobin
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
© 2020 Copyright Mayo Family History Centres
www.rootsireland.ie.^1,2

Myles McGing was born about 1750 in Arderry, Mayo, IrelandG. He and Catherine Guess were married.

The first McGing that came to Westport was from Ardara or Bohaun. He started a business buying cow hides and bringing them by the cartload to Athlone and often walked most of the way because he had the cart loaded and heaped. He changed the horse halfway between Westport and Athlone. He put the load on the train there and came back to Westport with a load of shoes and leather and sold them in his shop on High Street.

This is a speculative person. I have no proof and will not find any, but I am testing positive with dna for a person who does indeed link to me via this potential connection. So need more dna but for now this is a working connection.

There are issues with it - there are McGings in Dublin and some in Mayo but the records are so very very slim. So this is NOT proven. But it does serve as a working hypothesis.

His children are also real people but whether they were his children, siblings etc is also just speculation. DNA says that people of these lines are related, but exactly how remains a mystery. But this family construct does match the Y DNA and the autosomal DNA and to the degree possible, actual records.

Reminder, just a theory, not proven.

Michael Lally was born on September 4, 1874 in Derryveeney, Mayo, IrelandG.^1,2 He and Bridget Boyle were married on March 25, 1908 in Cappaghduff, Mayo, IrelandG, https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10058/5658036.pdf

Civil Marriage Record
Date of Marriage:25-Mar-1908
Parish / District:Cappaghduff districtCounty:Co. Mayo
HusbandWife
Name:MichaelLallyBridgetBoyle
Address:Derry VeneaChurchfield
Denomination:Civil ParishCivil Parish
Occupation:FARMER
Age:3024
Status:Bachelor (Previously unmarried)Spinster (Previously unmarried)
Husband's FatherWife's Father
Name:ThomasLallyMichaelBoyle
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:FARMER
Husband's MotherWife's Mother
Name:
Address:
Denomination:
Occupation:
Witness 1Witness 2
Name:TomLallyMaggieBoyle
Address:
Notes:
CAPPAGHDUFF CHAPEL BRIDES FATHER DECEASED
© Copyright Mayo Family History Centres.^1,2 He died on February 12, 1945, at age 70, in Tourmakeady, Mayo, IrelandG.^1,2

(Research):Civil Birth Record
Name: Michael Lally Date of Birth: 04-Sep-1874
Registration Date: 12-Sep-1874
Address: Derryveeny Parish/District: Cappaghduff district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Thomas Lally Mother: Mary Gibbons
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Ellen Lally Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes:
ELLEN LALLY "PRESENT AT BIRTH."
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Thomas Higgins was born on September 11, 1894 in Arderry, Mayo, IrelandG.

Civil Birth Record
Name: Thomas Higgins Date of Birth: 20-Sep-1894
Registration Date: 1-Jan-0
Address: Arderry Parish/District: Islandeady district
Gender: Male County Co. Mayo
Denomination: Civil Parish
Father: Charles Higgins Mother: Mary McGing
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2:
Notes. (Research):Ireland Civil Birth Registers Index Transcription
First name(s)Thomas
Last nameHiggins
SexMale
Birth year1894
Birth date20 Sep 1894
Birth placeArderry
Registration districtIslandeady
Superintendent's reg districtWestport
CountyMayo
CountryIreland
Father's first name(s)Charles
Father's last nameHiggins
Father's occupationFarmer
Father's addressArderry
Mother's first name(s)Mary
Mother's last nameMcGing
Registration year1894
Registration quarter yearOct - Dec 1894
Volume4
Page408
SourceView the source record
Record setIreland Civil Birth Registers Index
CategoryBirth, Marriage & Death (Parish Registers)
SubcategoryCivil Births
Collections fromIreland
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John McGing was born in 1798. He and Mary were married. He died on December 9, 1872, at age ~74, in Tonlegee, Mayo, IrelandG.

Civil Death Record
Name: John McGing Date of Death: 09-Dec-1872
Age: 74y Parish / District: Islandeady district
Address: Tonlegue County: Co. Mayo
Status: Married Denomination: Civil Parish
Occupation: LANDHOLDER Sex: Male
Graveyard Informant
Graveyard: Relationship: Householder
Parish: Name: Maria McGing
County: Address: Tonlegue
Notes:
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Not sure householder is spouse or daughter but because it says married and not widowed, assuming spouse is Maria (Mary.)

Jane Scahill was born in 1815 in Knappagh, Westport, Mayo, IrelandG. She and Patrick McGing were married in February 1835 Sister Helen thinks there were at least 4 more children: Penelope [Nuala], Francis, Margaret born in 1862, and Thomas born on 19 Nov 1865. There is a Margaret McGing married to a McGreevy in the Aughagower baptismal lists. Mrs. John Sheridan is the sponsor for two of her children. This does not necessarily mean that she is Mary McGing Sheridan's sister, since there were two Sheridan families in Aughagower and both had boys, approximately the same age, named John. She died on August 17, 1888, at age ~73, in Arderry, Mayo, IrelandG.

Died 17 August 1888 of general debility after 18 months, in the presence of her daughter-in-law, Mary McGing (the wife of James I would think)

First name(s) Jane
Last name Mcging
Year 1870
Date 11/08/1870
Role Defendant
Court Westport
Residence Arderry,Aughagour
County Mayo
Country Ireland
Record set Irish Petty Sessions Court Registers 1828-1912
Category Institutions & organisations
Record collection Courts & legal
Collections from Ireland

Civil Death Record
Name: Jane McGing Date of Death: 17-Aug-1888
Age: 60y Parish / District: Islandeady district
Address: Ardery County: Co. Mayo
Status: Widow (Female) Denomination: Civil Parish
Occupation: MOTHER OF A LANDHOLDER Sex: Female
Graveyard Informant
Graveyard: Relationship: Householder
Parish: Name: Mary McGing
County: Address: Ardery
Notes:
INFORMANT DAUGHTER-IN-LAW.
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Name: Jane McGing Date of Death: 17-Aug-1888
Age: 60y Parish / District: Islandeady district
Address: Ardery County: Co. Mayo
Status: Widow (Female) Denomination: Civil Parish
Occupation: MOTHER OF A LANDHOLDER Sex: Female
Graveyard Informant
Graveyard: Relationship: Householder
Parish: Name: Mary McGing
County: Address: Ardery
Notes:
INFORMANT DAUGHTER-IN-LAW.
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If birth was 1828, then unlikely she was married before 1845, making thise first 3 children likely belonging to the other family.